How to Choose the Correct Arrow Spine for an Asiatic Bow

SHOOTING THE ASSASSIN BOW

Choosing the right arrow spine for an Asiatic or horse bow does not have to be complicated.

My recommendation is to base your starting spine largely on the width of the bow’s arrow pass.

The wider the arrow pass, the more flex you generally want from the arrow during the shot. A narrower arrow pass allows you to use a stiffer shaft.


Wide Arrow Pass Bows

WIDE ARROW PASS

For bows with a wider arrow pass, such as the Odinson Archery Assassin, I generally recommend:

500 spine arrows with at least a 100-grain point.

Depending on your shooting style, draw length, and release, you may find that a slightly heavier point helps fine-tune the arrow’s behavior.

I do not recommend going lighter than a 100-grain point.

The goal is to give the arrow enough dynamic flex during the shot to work properly around the bow.

For this type of bow, I generally would not go weaker than 500 spine.

Many people choose to go a bit lighter but I would caution against this.

I also do not recommend going with a heavier insert rather than a heavier arrow tip. I tend to find that heavier inserts will throw the balance off on the arrow. Typically, this is reserved for people more experienced in building arrows to insure that you get the best balance out of your arrows.

This is why I recommend using our arrows here at Odinson Archery because they are crafted for the bow as well as have feather fletching, which is also as much for these style bows


Narrow Arrow Pass Bows

NARROW ARROW PASS

For bows with a narrower arrow pass, such as the Alp or Raider, I generally recommend:

Around 400 spine with at least a 100-grain point.

Depending on how you shoot, you may find that increasing the point weight to 125 grains or more improves arrow flight.

Because the arrow pass is narrower, the shaft does not need as much flex to clear the bow effectively.

For these bows, I generally recommend staying around 400 spine and not going stiffer than that without a specific reason to do so.

I have found that you will also need to take into account the length of your arrow as well. Most people in the Asiatic Archery world tend to use arrows in the 30 to 31 inch range depending on your draw length.

This will also need to be accounted for.


Point Weight Matters

Arrow spine is only part of the equation.

Point weight changes how the arrow behaves dynamically.

A heavier point generally causes the arrow to flex more during acceleration, while a lighter point causes it to behave stiffer.

That is why I recommend starting with at least a 100-grain point and then adjusting upward if necessary.

Do not immediately change shaft spine every time your arrows are not flying perfectly.

Sometimes a change from a 100-grain point to a 125-grain point is enough to improve the way the arrow behaves with your bow and shooting style.


What About Khatra?

NATURAL CHEST EXPANSION ON RELEASE

Khatra is often presented as the solution to arrow-clearance and spine problems in Asiatic archery.

Historically, that makes sense.

Traditional archers were using wooden arrows produced without the extremely consistent spine tolerances available to us today. Large numbers of arrows could vary considerably in stiffness, even when they appeared nearly identical.

Khatra helped the archer compensate for some of those inconsistencies and improve arrow clearance.

Today, however, we have access to modern carbon shafts with highly consistent spine ratings, along with different point weights and components that allow us to fine-tune arrow behavior.

Because of that, I believe we should take advantage of modern technology and begin with a properly matched arrow rather than relying on exaggerated khatra to compensate for poor arrow selection.

Khatra can still be an important part of Asiatic shooting technique, but it should work with properly tuned equipment, not replace it.

As discussed at length in my book The Thumb Draw Codex“, we should strive for a natural expansion of the chest on the shot no matter what arrow you’re using. This is a natural part of the show process that is kind of like “nature’s khatra” but is purely an incident movement based off of your bodies movement.

A Simple Starting Guide

Bow TypeRecommended Starting SpinePoint Weight
Wide arrow pass, such as Assassin500 spine100 grains minimum
Narrow arrow pass, such as Alp or Raider400 spine100 grains minimum; 125+ may help

These are starting recommendations rather than absolute rules.

Your draw length, release style, arrow length, and individual technique may require small adjustments, particularly in point weight.

But for most modern Asiatic bow setups, there is little reason to make arrow selection unnecessarily complicated.

Start with the correct spine for the bow’s geometry, use an appropriate point weight, feather fletching on ALL of your arrows and then fine-tune from there.

If you’re still having issues with finding the correct arrows for your bow, you can get your custom arrows here at Odinson Archery

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The better your arrow is matched to the bow, the less your technique has to compensate for your equipment.

The Feigned Retreat: Why The World’s Greatest Horse Archers Chose To Run Away

The Feigned Retreat: Why the World’s Greatest Horse Archers Chose to Run Away

At first glance, retreating from a battle appears to be the exact opposite of courage.

To many armies throughout history, turning your back on the enemy signaled panic, defeat, or collapse. Commanders were taught to press the attack against a retreating force, believing that victory was only moments away.

The world’s greatest mounted archer cultures understood something different.

Sometimes, the fastest path to victory began by convincing your enemy that you had already lost.

This tactic, known as the feigned retreat, became one of the most effective battlefield strategies ever employed. Although it is most famously associated with the Mongols, it was used by numerous mounted archer cultures across Eurasia because it perfectly complemented the strengths of highly mobile cavalry armed with bows.

The Psychology of the Retreat

The success of a feigned retreat depended less upon speed than upon human nature.

Imagine an enemy formation watching its opponent begin to withdraw.

The initial reaction is almost always the same.

“They’re breaking.”

“They’re running.”

“Victory is ours.”

What often followed was exactly what the mounted archers wanted.

Disciplined formations abandoned their carefully organized lines.

Infantry accelerated to pursue.

Cavalry raced ahead in search of glory.

Commanders lost control as individual soldiers became focused on chasing rather than maintaining formation.

The very discipline that had made the army dangerous began to disappear.

The mounted archers had not been defeated.

They had simply begun shaping the battlefield.

Why Mounted Archers Excelled at the Feigned Retreat

A feigned retreat requires extraordinary discipline.

It is not simply running away.

Every rider must remain aware of his position.

Distances between units must be maintained.

The withdrawal must appear convincing without becoming genuine panic.

Communication must remain intact.

Most importantly, the warriors must be capable of shooting accurately while continuing to move.

This is where mounted archers possessed an overwhelming advantage.

Horse archers could continue engaging the enemy throughout the withdrawal, slowing the pursuit while encouraging the attackers to continue advancing.

The retreat became both an invitation and a trap.

Jebe, Subutai, and the Battle of the Kalka River

One of history’s greatest examples of the feigned retreat occurred during the Battle of the Kalka River.

Following a reconnaissance campaign into Eastern Europe, the Mongol generals Jebe and Subutai found themselves pursued by a coalition of Rus’ princes and their Cuman allies. Rather than immediately accepting battle, the Mongols began a carefully controlled withdrawal.

This was no desperate escape.

It was a calculated deception.

For approximately nine days, the Mongols retreated across the steppe, skirmishing just enough to convince the coalition that they were fleeing in earnest. As the pursuit continued, the allied army stretched itself over many miles. Units became separated. Communication broke down. Supplies lagged behind. The discipline that had existed at the beginning of the campaign slowly unraveled as different commanders rushed ahead in hopes of claiming victory.

Only when the enemy had been drawn far from support and thoroughly disorganized did Jebe and Subutai choose to stand and fight near the Kalka River.

What followed was a decisive Mongol victory.

Instead of attacking a unified army, the Mongols defeated isolated elements one after another before overwhelming the remaining forces. The coalition had allowed itself to be drawn into exactly the battle the Mongols wanted to fight.

The victory was not won through superior numbers.

It was won through patience, discipline, mobility, and deception.

More Than a Mongol Tactic

Although the Mongols perfected the feigned retreat, they were far from the only culture to employ it.

The Scythians used mobility and deception to frustrate larger armies across the Eurasian steppe centuries before the rise of the Mongol Empire.

The Parthians famously combined withdrawals with devastating backward shots from horseback, giving rise to the term “Parthian shot.”

Various Turkic peoples incorporated similar methods into their cavalry doctrine.

In the Battle of Hastings, Frankish Cavalry used this technique effectively

Even on the Great Plains of North America, the Comanche often used rapid withdrawals, changing directions, and repeated hit-and-run attacks to lure opponents into unfavorable situations.

These cultures differed greatly in language, geography, and politics.

Yet they all arrived at remarkably similar conclusions.

Mobility creates opportunity.

Predictability creates vulnerability.

Discipline Wins Battles

One of the greatest misconceptions about the feigned retreat is that it relied upon reckless aggression.

In reality, it depended upon remarkable discipline.

A poorly executed retreat quickly became a real retreat.

An undisciplined pursuit became a disaster.

Success belonged to the side that remained organized while the other abandoned organization.

The Battle of the Kalka River demonstrates this perfectly. Jebe and Subutai did not defeat their opponents simply because they were exceptional horse archers. They defeated them because they understood psychology as well as warfare. They recognized that the enemy’s greatest weakness was not its weapons or armor—it was overconfidence.

Lessons for the Modern Archer

Fortunately, we no longer study these tactics because we expect to employ them in warfare.

We study them because they reveal timeless principles of human behavior.

The feigned retreat teaches us the value of patience over impulse.

It demonstrates the importance of discipline under pressure.

It reminds us that appearances can be deceptive and that success often belongs to those who think several steps ahead instead of reacting emotionally.

These same principles apply on the archery range.

A rushed shot often mirrors an undisciplined pursuit.

A patient archer who observes, adapts, and waits for the right moment frequently outperforms one who reacts impulsively.

History changes.

Technology evolves.

The battlefield disappears.

Yet the underlying principles remain remarkably consistent.

That is why the study of historical combat archery continues to matter today—not because we seek to recreate the battles of the past, but because those battles still have something to teach us about discipline, awareness, and the pursuit of mastery.